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Submitted By flyclub on 12/05/13
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I was having a blast from the past in the Alpha One cargo freighter, I realized the damned thing was incredibly bland, lacked seamlessness, and was quite... redundant.
 
So.... I decided to finally work on Alpha Two! I've learned a lot about modeling since then, and while I am certainly no pro, I think that Alpha Two will be far better than Alpha One.
 
The high-security bits aren't in place yet, but you have to remember, this thing will be crossing the dark depths between galactic arms... Safe heaven for ne'erdowells and galactic pirates alike... In the name of shipping speeds, this freighter will need to defend its self.
 
YES: This is mars related, I am debating finishing this project and trying to turn it into a world, barring no loss of interest or technical problems.
 
 
 
 
 
Drone docking bay entrance [WIP]:
 
 
 

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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 6:37 GMT
Good luck!
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 6:40 GMT
lol oh god I almost just typed "good luck!" to you. Yes. I almost did. I have no idea why, I was just about to hit send, and then I realized what the devil it was I had entered into the text box....
 
I meant to say:
 
Thank you, eric! :)
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 days - 10,809v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 6:38 GMT
:O!!!!!! OMG that looks EPIC Flyclub!!!! Maybe it can have some smaller ships flying around it to help it on it's travels :D And you could make a cargo bay for them! :D                  
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 6:47 GMT
That is a great idea! I was planning on defense turrets, but I may be able to do defense drones instead!
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 24,924v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 6:44 GMT
:O

That is one of the most epic ships I've ever seen. Right up there with the Valtrax and Sky King.

Lol, good job, Flynn! I can't wait to see the finished product!

~Oaky
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 6:48 GMT
haha, I am flattered xD As of now, it's only exterior geometry, the interior is hopelessly bland. :( Valtrax and sky king win by a long shot lol
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 9:07 GMT
Lol good job! I see you're using Blender to model this... I'm useless at Blender, never understood it, so I prefer Sketchup. :P
Good luck! :D
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 days - 22,986v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 15:04 GMT
I like the name.
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 15:17 GMT
Looks cool. :)
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 22,204v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 15:58 GMT
I hate you. :p
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 16:10 GMT
Lol, I just realized that the title of this thread is the actual name of the freighter. Nice!
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 16:15 GMT
Excellent!
I wish you good luck Flynn.
And I also have a question: will it still have the Secret Entrance easter egg? (a bit of a redundant question, seeing as it is "Hi-Security" :) ).
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 17:35 GMT
Oh I think there will be plenty of secrets :)
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
3 days - 8,344v
Posted 2012/05/13 - 21:06 GMT
Nice boat. It seems complex. Good luck
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
3 days - 10,293v
Posted 2012/05/14 - 2:18 GMT
Flynn, we need to catch up on spacecraft sometime... Anyways, neat boat. Will she fly?
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 day - 5,350v
Posted 2012/05/14 - 3:00 GMT
Any easter eggs similar to the Alpha One engine easter egg?
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
3 days - 9,746v
Posted 2012/05/14 - 3:43 GMT
Hmm, very interesting! Just one suggestion (maybe two, or more :P). If your engines are actually dragging the ship forward, then the little pointy thingys should probably be facing the back, right? you want this to be streamlined and economically efficient.
A neutron star powering this ship eh? I saw a movie like that once (coughspidermantwocough), it didn't turn out too well. perhaps you should streamline the whole thing a bit more, in order to make it more aerodynamic. Also, maybe consider putting some sort of dome on cockpit area, or at least making it more than an obtruded polygon (you're probably already planning on doing this, just making sure). Overall, looking good! I like it and look forward to the completed project with relish (heh big word)
ffroggy
PS it's good to be back!
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/14 - 3:49 GMT
Neutron star technology has evolved a great deal since that rather unfortunate accident :(
 
 
One would not want the smaller end to be on the emission side of the graviton vortex engine -- This would obstruct the gravitons and ruin the vortexing effect. The funnel actually exists to disturb the gravitons flowing in the opposite direction, and prevent negation of effect. If you look closely, you will notice a number of small antigraviton emitters specifically designed to boost the disturbance effect.
 
Aerodynamics, hmm, other than the engines, have you any concern? Aerodynamics is of no concern in a frictionless environment, but I get the will for it to look good, so, if you have any suggestions shapewise, other than the engines, be my guest.
 
Oh, and there is a forwards facing dome for observing space in the front. Sensors are located there and are routed to the cockpit
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/14 - 4:45 GMT
Candy for geeks. ;)
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 days - 10,809v
Posted 2012/05/14 - 5:38 GMT
Lol
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
3 days - 9,746v
Posted 2012/05/14 - 18:34 GMT
Well, I would suggest hyperfibrulating the nanotrainwreckinators to capitulate the vortex manipulator and resuscitate space-time black holes that force the ship forward. Additionally, you could put the hyperwarp flux capacitator somewhere where it wouldn't bleartgheart the injection valves. Then, you should nanopolarize the gravitron microprocessors. After this, consider manipulating the electromagneticnanocapitulatinghyperwarpitroninator to do something more useful.
that's all :D
ffroggy
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
3 days - 9,746v
Posted 2012/05/14 - 18:37 GMT
Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Move the plasma tube so that the electromagnetic waves eminating from the pipe don't interfere with your ship's sensors. Also, make sure the pipe is made from a non-metal substance, try reinforced hyper-xenon held in place with gravitron beams. that way, your pipe doesn't get ultra-magnetized and microwave your crew :)
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/15 - 0:05 GMT
The transparent material mentioned before is a newly created version of hyper-xenon that features transparency as an added touch hehe
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
3 days - 9,746v
Posted 2012/05/17 - 14:51 GMT
Ooh, hyper-xenon!
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/14 - 22:28 GMT
Two words:
 
Holy crap.
 
Two more words:
 
High-Poly.
 
And twenty one more:
 
Is it going to be playable, or will it have ten frames per second max on fastest like the Alpha One?
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/15 - 0:11 GMT
Alpha One plays quite fine for me, at 60 fps on good, I'm not sure what you are doing to your GPU to make it run that slow, my computer is somewhat old now, made back in 2010, by now the computing industry is far more advanced. Unless your computer is from 2007, in which case, my condolences, I do not think this will lag you
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/15 - 0:56 GMT
I would reccomend a magneertron class tractor beam and the addition of proton beam launchers for additional defensive capabilities. Use and Ilum Crystal array for cloaking and make sure to use top-model particle-radar detectors and pingers
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 day - 5,350v
Posted 2012/05/15 - 1:12 GMT
Any internal power source? A reactor? Or does it need to refuel constantly? Or does it harvest solar energy to keep going?
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/15 - 1:59 GMT
Neutron stars need...no fuel afer formation (i think)
 
Batman sifi FTW
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/15 - 2:25 GMT
It uses nano solar technology to absorb 90% of the radiation from an on board neutron star, which will last for millions of years before a new one is needed. It does, however also have nanosolar panels on certain areas around the hull to absorb background radiation too
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/15 - 6:34 GMT
I think I'm going to take the time to learn Blender this summer, it's obviously a far superior modelling tool to Sketchup.

Once this is finished and put in Unity, I would suggest adding some cool particle effects around the engines, with jump points assigned to them. :)
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/15 - 8:04 GMT
Ah, fun idea, the jump points :)
 
Yes, there will be excess plasma exhaust coming from the engines -- They are not 100% perfect you know. Typically graviton vortexes would simply be visible as distortions in the stars, but, since I do not have the ability to do that in mars/without unity pro/without lagging you all to hell, I will just settle for inefficient design and have simply plasma particles coming out as exhaust instead :)
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
3 days - 9,746v
Posted 2012/05/17 - 14:54 GMT
Oh yeah, I know the storage tanks use matter compression to store materials, but what if one of them was filled with a whole bunch of random crap? You could have some crates, shiny things, etc
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
3 days - 9,746v
Posted 2012/05/17 - 14:56 GMT
Also, is there some sort of shield around the neutron star container? because if I was a big bad guy, I would just shoot your neutron star box and let the ship destroy itself. That is the biggest structural weakness, in my opinion. That place will have to be really heavily defended
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/17 - 20:00 GMT
All of the ship is shielded by the gravametric beams -- And the neturon star is simply suspended, not compressed -- If its suspenders were to be destroyed, they would malfunction, causing the star to veer off to the side and safely out of the way
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
3 days - 9,746v
Posted 2012/05/19 - 18:51 GMT
Yes, but the neutron star does have this little thing called gravity, and this other little thing called electromagnetic radiation
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/20 - 18:26 GMT
The ship is powered by a little thing called graviton emitters, I think it can handle a small neutron star, not to mention, the hull plating is a little thing called radiation proof. 
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/20 - 18:29 GMT
Honestly, though, the ship its self is much larger than the start it hauls around, this star is very small, about the size of a very large asteroid, smaller than a moon. I would frankly expect the star to start orbiting the ship, not the other way around lol, and if it becomes a problem, all it takes is a nice vortex fired right into the star to severely destroy its gravitational field, causing the star to explode into oblivion. The gravametric structs would take care of anything that the ship need avoid, including small balls of fire from an exploded star.
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/21 - 1:18 GMT
I'm not sure you understand the massiveness of a neutron star. It is tiny, but compressed so that you have neutrons (proton + electron + weak interaction) (Opposite of beta decay) adjacent to each other. A neutron star the size of a large asteroid will be more massive than a large planet. Also, you may have the graviton beams to counter the gravitational force, but how will you counter the electromagnetic force? A neutron star is the most magnetized object known to exist. It will easily mess with the ships systems. Also, by using it as a power source, what's to stop you from causing instability and triggering collapse to a singularity?
 
One more thing: Where'd you get the neutron star?
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/21 - 8:12 GMT
Neutron stars are collapsed stars, meaning, they are what happens when a star fails to collapse into a black hole. Stability is the least of my concerns.
 
The origins of the star are unknown. Take your pick:
 
Created in fusion reactor.
Harvested from collapsed star detected after supernova.
 
Now, since this is sciFI (emphasis on the fiction), I could always pull the magical "This neutron star is just not that heavy" but I'm not going to cheat. The reason I said it would orbit is because, the shi is ALSO very massive. Remember the hyper compression chambers mentioned before? They compress to near the weight of a neutron star, just under the amount of compression needed for ignition. That means, with all six of them combined, there is plenty of gravity for orbit, and each of those chambers is al ot larger than this *SMALL* neutron star.
 
Electromagnetic force: Three explanations.
 
A: As I recall, the electromagnetic forces of a star are extremely scattered (thousands of poles, am I right?) This means that there would usually, be just as much push as there would be pull for any average area.
 
The hull, insulating against radiation, just to happens to work on electromagnetic radiation as well. That means no messed up systems.
 
The beams can debunk any attractions the star may have on the ship.
 
The ship does not actually mess with the star -- It simply moves the star WITH the ship. There are a number of highly advanced "solar panels" that absorb ALL radiation, not just some of the light. The radiation from a neutron star ALONE is enough to power a ship of this size. The star its self remains untouched, and therefore remains stable. 
 
 
One more thing: All it would take to destabilize a singularity into a number of smaller black holes (which would each either re-collapse later, or simply... disappear) is a nice strong graviton vortex fired from the engines. A swirling donut of gravitons are quite likely to mess with a black hole, and if yo ucan't destroy it, the gravitons form the blackhole could probably be used as fuel FOR the vortex manipulator (gravitons are emitted directly into the vortex manipulator, which gets them moving into a vortex. What is a black hole other than a source of gravitons?) And if you don't believe that story, I hear black holes are highly prized by civilizations that produce alot of trash. Wouldn't be too hard to toe the black hole along using the gravametric beams
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
3 days - 9,746v
Posted 2012/05/21 - 18:18 GMT
Aha, I see. Pardon my failure :)
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/05/17 - 19:58 GMT
The pods are designed for storage of raw materials -- High yield plasmatic energy, plutonium, antimatter, etc, etc. There is an onboard, laser guarded personal valuables chamber, for storage of things that cannot handle the immense pressure of hyper-compression.
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Re: Alpha Two Hi-Security Cross-Galactic Precious-Resource freighter
3 days - 8,344v
Posted 2012/05/26 - 17:25 GMT
this seems very 
 
...complex....
 
In a completely good way.

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