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Submitted By Batman29 on 12/07/02
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Hello Everybody!
 
I really want to know the pros and cons of JavaScript.  Please give me your best arguments, because I want to hear both sides.  What would removing JavaScript do for the good of Mars? Or the worse?  Is there a way we can stop people attacking Mars without removing JS?  Enlighten me, please.
 
     Your favorite Hero,
                 Batman
 
P.S.  I also made this so that you can argue on this and not in my server or other ones!

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Re: JavaScript?
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/07/02 - 3:22 GMT
Batman! :)
 
 
 
So, yes, pro's cons... Before I dive into them, the short answer to your second question is:
 
No.
 
The long answer:
 
Yes! But, Aubrey is unwilling to create such a system. He's willing to remove JS, but creating a special secure version of JS is not on his agenda, sadly. Which means we are basically stuck with all or nothing.
 
 
 
Pros:
  • Embeds mainly -- removing JS will stop you from embedding youtube (however, a simple SRC URL checker could allow youtube-based JS scripts through, but nothing else)
  • Unity embeds would be disabled -- however if we allow Unity to be embedded, there are workarounds that would then further allow JS to be executed within Unity onto the website! Too much of a security risk.
  • Interactive content created by users -- we actually don't have a lot of this on the site anyways, interactive content is generally considered useless.
  • Tracking of wrongdoers -- This is really where JS is used, we want to know who people are, and track puppet accounts
Cons:
  • JS can be used to grab your ATID and break into your account
  • JS can be used to grab your email and spam your email
  • JS can be used to change your password and lock you out
  • JS can be used to change your username
  • JS can spread throughout the website by using your username, forcing its self into all usernames. (this MAY have been removed, however)
  • JS can change your email to someone else's allowing them to reset your password
  • JS can also change your bio -- as well as anything else on your change profile page
  • JS can make comments as you
  • JS can force you to hide your posts
  • JS can make posts as you
  • JS can read your PMS
  • JS can send posts as you
  • JS can edit your comments
  • JS can edit your posts
  • JS can spam you
  • JS can ruin posts
  • JS can ruin the main-page
  • JS can ruin any page
  • JS can lag your computer
  • JS can crash your browser
  • JS can even crash your computer if used correctly
  • JS can hack all the moderators and lock them out as well
  • Once JS does this... JS can hack the admin, and ruin the website by deleting all content
  • JS can finally lock the admin out
So basically JS can be used to ruin our forum. Yep! All it takes is for one angry person (or even just a troll....) who knows JS to come on over here and ruin things for us.
 
Removing JS will NOT:
  • Affect the game its self, changes are ONLY done to the forum
  • Stop AUBREY from using JS on his website, it will only stop USERS
 
This is why we NEED to remove JS, because if we don't, we put the ENTIRE forum at risk of MAJOR attack.
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Re: JavaScript?
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/01/10 - 9:43 GMT
Since you metion it, PHP can do similar stuff. And it's actually easier to do code injection than use JS. That's what someone did to my site, with no JS, just a simple HTML redirect and it's destroyed. Had to get the police out on them. :(
The internet is insecure, live with it.
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Re: JavaScript?
1 day - 4,853v
Posted 2012/07/02 - 14:20 GMT
So it sounds like a good thing to remove Javascript.  But I have a website: kingmen.plexpedia.com, and I am just worried that MY site is going to be negatively affected if JavaScript were to be removed.  What will the removing of JavaScript do to MY plexpedia site?
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Re: JavaScript?
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/07/02 - 16:36 GMT
The exact same thing as it does everywhere else -- Just no user JS
 
 
Your website doesn't use JS, so you are fine :)
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Re: JavaScript?
4 days - 13,880v
Posted 2012/07/02 - 15:26 GMT
The goal is to remove it from Plexpeida. 
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Re: JavaScript?
1 day - 4,853v
Posted 2012/07/02 - 15:29 GMT
I know, but how would that effect my site on plexpedia, if it were removed?
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Re: JavaScript?
4 days - 13,880v
Posted 2012/07/02 - 15:30 GMT
Because it uses plexpedia.
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Re: JavaScript?
1 day - 4,853v
Posted 2012/07/02 - 17:39 GMT
I know, but what WILL it DO to my Kingmen plexpedia site, if it is removed?
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Re: JavaScript?
3 days - 13,589v
Posted 2012/07/02 - 18:01 GMT
Remove Javascript.  Anything that happens to to the Mars forum will be imposed (something willingly, something not) on alllll other forums that use Plexpedia.
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Re: JavaScript?
5 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2012/07/02 - 21:02 GMT
It will remove JS from your website, but removing JS form your website will not cause any kind of perceivable changes to your website.
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Re: JavaScript?
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/01/10 - 1:13 GMT
It will no allow you to embed javascript. This means no Javascript in your posts, Text fields, etc.
 
The editor will have to be replaced by probably a BBcode (or similar) WYSIWYG editor.
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Re: JavaScript?
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/01/10 - 9:41 GMT
No JS in posts - agh, such a loss! Seriously, does anyone ever use that?
 
What-you-see-is-what-you-get sites always look awful to me... don't know about anyone else.
 
Yes JS is vulnerable. So is HTML. And PHP. To make a site secure you have to work on the security - encrypt stuff etc.
BBcode? You serious? Yucks. I vote to stick with JS.
 
Edit: Oh, please for the sake of others' sanity, try to avoid using seven-letter acromyns, please?
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Re: JavaScript?
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/01/10 - 0:42 GMT
Ugh, I thought you were referring to unityscript - if that was removed, Mars would NOT work.
 
But yeah. *looks derpy*
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Re: JavaScript?
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/07/19 - 9:03 GMT
bleh
 

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