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Why you should consider what you are doing before you take quarry and take to the skies with a jet!
Submitted By ChrisPerson on 12/07/07
Mars Explorer, ChrisPerson, Community, Jets, Quarry, Jet, Jet Noob, Annoying 

You saw the title, most likely read the description, and hopefully know why you're here.  Before I start on that, let me tell you a story, based on countless experiences. If you do things like the jet, this should be an eye opener for you...

So you're quarry in a buggy. If you don't know what it means to be quarry, just imagine being green, and if someone shoots you, you are no longer green.

Right, so you're quarry, minding your own business or evading the lasers from others, when somebody actually shoots you. Who is it? It's that guy in the jet, of course! Before you can shoot him back, he's speeding away, getting as far away from everyone as possible.

If you've played Mars Explorer for as long as I and others have, you're probably familiar with that scenario. Some noob in a jet takes quarry (who wouldn't?), then speeds off so nobody can get him. It's frustrating as hell, even more so if the server host is AFK, so nobody can evict him. These guys are so infamous that they've even earned there own special name: Jet noobs.

Jet Noobs, why? Do you not realize how annoying this is? Not only have you ticked off a lot of people, but you've accomplished absolutely nothing. Here's why:

 

1. Tag - Quarry is near Pointless (figuratively)

Ever play tag* when you were little? Maybe you ARE little (for whatever reason) and play tag every so often. What's so special about being "it"? Nothing, right? No special thing you get (if you did, welcome to relay racing!) for being "it", nothing. It's just that everybody wants to be "it". This is Mars Explorer. Being quarry is being "it". All you get is being green in general, purely so people can tell who's quarry. If you want to be green, change your color manually.

Now before you start flaming me with things like "But there is a benefit! A Juggernaut system! If you're quarry, you can get points, shown in the tags, like 'B-1' or 'J 5'!". I am aware of this, having just found out. For those unfamiliar with the Juggernaut system (if I've named it right), you only get points if you're the Juggernaut, or in this case, the quarry. If you're quarry and you shoot someone, you get points.

The Juggernaut system doesn't apply to Jet Noobs. Why? Guess what? If you fly so high that nobody can see or shoot you, you can't see or shoot them either. Flying too fast to be shot at? You won't be able to shoot them either.

In all essentials, being quarry is nothing special if you run away with it.

2. Nobody is impressed, nobody looks up to you.

Let's just say that you're walking along the street, enjoying the nice summer day, when two F-18 fighter jets roar into the area and start doing aerobatic tricks. You'd be impressed, right? Now let's say that you're a buggy driving along some rough terrain, when suddenly some guy in the jet that's quarry comes flying over you, topping 600 MPH. Impressed? No? Welcome to our world, Jet Noobs!

Why aren't you impressed? That guy just flew over you at high speed, and he was quarry! Have I convinced you? I hope not, because that's something anybody could do.

In other words, nobody thinks you're special for flying so high and being quarry. Nobody. In fact, if you make it impossible to get quarry by flying so fast, pretty much everybody on the server hates you for it.

What if you want to fly that fast though? What if you want to fly as fast as possible? Then make sure you aren't quarry! It is not "cool" to be a Jet Noob.

3. Doah! You just stole all the fun!

Let's go back to that tag example for a moment. Let's say that when you finally tagged the person who was “it”, instead of shouting “TAG!” at the top of your lungs like a little maniac, you stayed silent, not letting anybody know that you are now “it”.

Now let's switch over to mars explorer. If some Jet Noob has quarry at over 100,000 altitude, there is no way for everybody else to play the same game – trying to be quarry. Why? Because there is no way to verify whose laser hit the makeshift quarry. Without that crucial green guy with the green name, we can't tell. Besides, even if we could, some Jet Noob would repeat the process again, taking away the makeshift quarry.

Point being? Be a Jet Noob and you wreck everybody's fun.

4. Quarry is fun, but only if you can do things with it.

Quick! Paint your car/bike green, then go out on the streets with it, shouting “Catch me if you can!” Unless you're just weird, there's nothing fun about that.

For a more down-to-earth example, let's (again) go back to tag. Imagine that you're “it”, and that you're running away from all your friends chasing you. Now make all those friends disappear. No threat, no fun, right? If you aren't threatened by those guys chasing you down so they can be “it”, there's really no fun in it.

I'll admit, flying around really fast in a jet can be fun. Really fun for some people. But being quarry while doing it? As per #3, it ticks a whole bunch of people off.

Back to the Juggernaut point system. If you're one of those people who absolutely have to have the high score, go ahead, be my guest and try it. But if you're being a Jet Noob, you can't shoot those guys because they're either too far down or you're going way to fast. It's like playing a shooting game while invulnerable, but you never have ammo. What's the point?

 

So why do Jet Noobs do what they do? Either they haven't realized any of the above, or they're trolling. Regardless, even if you haven't though of any of the above, ignorance is not an excuse for your actions. If you're just trolling, there's something that we like to do on any forums for trolls. It's a little something called banning. Or if you want to show some mercy, evict Jet Noobs, defaulting the quarry back to the person who did the evicting - the server host.

To all the Jet Noobs out there, before you take to the skies in your unrealistically fast jet, think: what would your reaction be if this was somebody else, and you wanted quarry?

 

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Re: Quarry &
1 day - 4,967v
Posted 2012/07/07 - 2:24 GMT
The jet wasn't made to be n00bish, but people do use it as an advantage to buggies.
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Re: Quarry &
4 hours - 392v
Posted 2012/07/07 - 2:38 GMT
I know. I found that an effective method of combating them is to disable lasers on them entirely, and evict anyone who gets quarry, then switches to a jet. It's not ideal, but it works.
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Re: Quarry &
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/07/07 - 3:28 GMT
Huzzah! Great post. :)
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Re: Quarry &
4 hours - 392v
Posted 2012/07/07 - 4:53 GMT
Well, I did try. I just got so ticked off at jet noobs on a server that I stopped and wrote the equivilent of an essay. That's what I call being angry.
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Re: Quarry &
1 day - 5,328v
Posted 2012/07/07 - 5:43 GMT
If there is a jet noob, then start NQSing.
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Re: Quarry &
4 hours - 392v
Posted 2012/07/07 - 14:41 GMT
What do you mean, "start NQSing"?
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Re: Quarry &
1 day - 5,328v
Posted 2012/07/07 - 15:27 GMT
Shoot other players when you are not the quarry.
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Re: Quarry &
1 day - 3,981v
Posted 2012/07/07 - 17:40 GMT
i totally agree with this. i mean, even though i am a jet flyer, i make sure that the host disables lasers and lsr lock before i even think of flying. 
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Re: Quarry &
4 hours - 392v
Posted 2012/07/08 - 2:29 GMT
Whenever I'm quarry and I want to fly in a jet, I literally give away quarry first. Sometimes I'll just ask random people if they want quarry.
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Re: Quarry &
1 week - 31,378v
Posted 2012/07/08 - 6:28 GMT
Jet noobs are super fun if you enjoy dogfighting. Their half the fun.
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Re: Quarry &
4 hours - 392v
Posted 2012/07/08 - 18:38 GMT
I enjoy dogfighting, but jet noobs prevent dog fighting! Flying too high in a jet prevents the b
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Re: Quarry &
1 day - 3,981v
Posted 2012/07/08 - 19:25 GMT
Yeah. just today. ran into a freaking annoying jet noob. over 50000 alt, and he thought he was the best in the world. it was very annoying.
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Re: Quarry &
23 hours - 2,956v
Posted 2012/07/11 - 15:59 GMT
CHARLES. HATES. FRAKIN. JET. N00BS.
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Re: Quarry &
1 week - 31,378v
Posted 2012/07/11 - 16:43 GMT
Ah, we meet again Mr. All-CAPITALS.
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Re: Quarry &
23 hours - 2,956v
Posted 2012/07/11 - 16:55 GMT
But I wanna emphasize!
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Re: Quarry &
1 week - 20,797v
Posted 2012/07/11 - 20:26 GMT
I've only seen Jet n00bs go far, not high. :/
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Re: Quarry &
4 hours - 392v
Posted 2012/07/14 - 17:43 GMT
A lot of them choose to go high, and other just zip above the world at high speed, so we can see them, but not shoot them.
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Re: Quarry &
2 days - 5,444v
Posted 2012/07/12 - 21:56 GMT

well, for some stupid reason my original comment was deleted. so im give you an ADHD version. 



i dont do this. i dont like to do this. people who do this are easy targets
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Re: Quarry &
4 hours - 392v
Posted 2012/07/14 - 17:41 GMT
I don't "Jet Noob" now, but when I first started playing Mars (3+ years ago, first week of playing), I did, for about 30 seconds, then it got old (I was both a newbie and a n00b, what can I say? I just downloaded it, just started playing, and I only *just* learned how to put the landing gear for a jet up. I was stupid!). But I disagree with you on the last point; people who are Jet Noobs are not at all easy targets. Have you ever tried sniping a jet going at 800 MPH? It's darn near impossible, unless you're some sort of sniping god.
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Re: Quarry &
2 days - 5,444v
Posted 2012/07/20 - 1:35 GMT
thing is, when they go up, all you have to do is point in their general direction.

the laser lock (which, i think, is a very massive advantage against the jet) will just fire and if they dont manuver to dodge, you will hit them.
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Re: Quarry &
14 hours - 1,473v
Posted 2012/07/16 - 13:37 GMT
Great post! Jets can be fun. I agree with all of your points, though. Thank goodness for the evicting option :D
 
Sort of random, but I brought up this point in a game yesterday. Haven't you ever thought of the idea that the term "Dog-fighting" is actually more accustommed to Jets than buggies with wings? Lol, not stating any opinions, just something I thought of :D
 
I wish there was an option in the game to have fun NQSing while still getting points when a jet noob is on the loose, something like a free-for-all?
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Re: Quarry &
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/07/16 - 16:21 GMT
This game (mars) is dead ended for devellopement and it's successor, sy3th, is in devellopement..since 2010
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Re: Quarry &
4 hours - 392v
Posted 2012/07/16 - 20:50 GMT
It's a dead end until somebody figures out how to mod Mars Explorer... After reading that, I know what you're thinking: "How could that ever work?" Well, it'd be pretty simpl- Actually, no. I'm going to make a suggestions thread for this.
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Re: Quarry &
4 hours - 392v
Posted 2012/07/16 - 20:49 GMT
Like I said, some Jet Noobs do what they do because they're trolls, so points don't always matter. I agree with you on the thing about dogfighting though - in a real world scenario, dogfighting would be in powered flying vehicles rather than unpowered flying vehicles.
 
On the thing with evicting... Evicting can be useful, but sometimes it's kinder to just disable jets - some people don't rejoin if evicted.
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Re: Quarry &
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2012/07/24 - 18:39 GMT
This is how I catch em. By default, the jet,has half of laser lck. I chase them, and aim my green stick at them, and pew, I'm quarry, and I run back. When. I quarry in jet, I fly away, come back, pew at somebody, away come back, pew, and so on.

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