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going to need help with this one
Submitted By sebfromnz on 13/04/07
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this is what it! is:
 
it has been undecided as to wether this project will be something to replace the current jet we have in the game, or bring in a new vehicle "the space fighter" 
 
now i'm only going to post one version of what i have created here so far... there are 3 different types of this.. well umm whatever it will be, completed.. but just out of view for the current time being
 
this post was staged in advance as i did some slight change's around my model
 
if this was to replace the jet.. well we already know what that can do in the game.. it would just be a new look to it
 
if this was to be a space fighter.. well as to the space bar effect of it.. i'm not sure as what it would be yet, as this is one vehicle that hasn't really been thought out to much yet.. 
 
as for handling, yes it would have some speed factor to it, i was thinking of a high speed like the jet, but thats just not fair, so it would have to be capped somewhere speed wise, maybe high acceleration, maybe along with forward thrust.. it could have reverse thrust? to do fast mid air stops? im going to need help for ideas on this one
 
if this version of it appears to be liked ill post the other one's as for a different look, or i may just post them anyway but for now here is the first one!
 
front
side.. will more of a sideish view of it
looking at the underside
different side style view
back
top
another angled shot
 
i started to think outside the known box when i first started these.. but somewhere along the lines i lost that box and went a bit crazy in terms of style
 
as promised here's another version of the same thing....
biplane style version of it ;)
it has a small second wing...
tis green this time
 
 
back
different way of holding the engine's in place
side view
top
this version is sort of like a biplane version of it, by placing a small second wing between the engines
was trying out different ideas as to how i could also make this.. in saying so i still like the one with the single wing better, this was only another option to the same idea, in terms of style
 
yes i know tis a bit out there... but that was my goal, which is why the wings are a funny shape
 
still two more different options to be uploaded...

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Re: It's on the way.... what it is, is epic, stay tuned to find out what it is!
2 days - 7,530v
Posted 2013/04/07 - 6:39 GMT
So, I was playing mars, minding my own business when this THING came out of nowhere! Goodness gracious, it was amazing! It was as graceful as an eagle and as powerful as a fighter jet! It is a mystery how such an amazing machine would find its way on to the humble game of Mars Explorer... I hope that one day we will see it again, and that it might show itself completely!OMG
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Re: It's on the way.... what it is, is epic, stay tuned to find out what it is!
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/07 - 6:40 GMT
You really need a skybox in the background and a unity terrain to make me believe that xD
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Re: It's on the way.... what it is, is epic, stay tuned to find out wh
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/07 - 8:05 GMT
are you sure said photo in question wasn't taken on an old unfinished long forgotten world that was chanced upon by going through some of the many place's where people have mad list's of worlds... and that upon speaking to lavalamp we weren't to sure on what we saw... so a little photoshopping was done to change the background and blur out the the green hill it is flying behind...?
 
we are trying to track it's movements through some of the worlds only to see it just as it disappears in to nothing...
 
going through the photo's that have been taken we are trying to put together something along it's lines...
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Re: It's on the way.... what it is, is epic, stay tuned to find out what it is!
1 week - 20,797v
Posted 2013/04/07 - 16:41 GMT
...
:P
It looks like some form of dropship from this point of view...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: It's on the way.... what it is, is epic, stay tuned to find out what it is!
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/04/07 - 20:44 GMT
Looks like a box with dome on top to me. With wing thing. I'm soooo exicited.~
 
So far, we have a fairly boring picture, baring the seb trademark domed cockpit. Quite frankly a pointless post that could have been contained within his original one (or now two).
 
All I can do is laugh right now. Cuz right now, with a green triangle and a few more monocolored polygons, it's anything but 'epic'.
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Re: It's on the way.... what it is, is epic, stay tuned to find out what it is!
2 days - 7,530v
Posted 2013/04/07 - 20:52 GMT
It is much more than that..... Maybe later I can thy and get a better picture.
 
Edit: Now you can see in the newest picture, ace, that it is MUCH more than "a box with dome on top"....
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Re: It's on the way.... what it is, is epic, stay tuned to find out what it is!
1 day - 4,967v
Posted 2013/04/07 - 23:52 GMT
OH NOZ its district 9 all over again
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Re: It's on the way.... what it is, is epic, stay tuned to find out what it is!
2 days - 7,530v
Posted 2013/04/08 - 0:07 GMT
I saw it again! This time, it flew directly over me! This screenshot is with the skybox of one of abister's experemental worlds as a background. 
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a new idea?
1 day - 3,804v
Posted 2013/04/08 - 7:58 GMT
This is awesome!  One thing...my OCD is killing me that the front wings are not curving perfectly parallel.  I know this is difficult to accomplish with a low poly model however.  I wish that this will be implemented in the game!
 
;D
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/08 - 8:01 GMT
they were never meant to curve parallel... thats part of it.. and wait till you see the others
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/04/08 - 10:38 GMT
What he eans is that tey get thicker and thinner in places which look like they shouldn't. And I have to agree, it does look wrong.
 
Also - calling your own work "epic" is not exactly modest. It's, quite frankly, slightly offensive.
 
However, this is the nicest model I've seen from you so far. The styling imho doesn't fit perfectly with the current vehicles, but it's sure as hell close. What's the poly count like for it?
 
Only things i'd change is the wing tips (possibly making them more simple, like the tips on the jet) and I'd straighten the tail surfaces, rather than using curves. But, like I said, I do like this.
 
Nice job! Just wish the presentation had been better.
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/08 - 10:48 GMT
yes i know it looks a bit wrong.. but as i said thats all part of if
 
meh as to calling it epic...... tis a post and im having fun with it... ill change it if it needs doing
 
as for the presentation.. i sort of tried to make a build up to it... was killed at the start though, so the plan didn't work out the way i had hoped
 
the poly count.... no clue
 
maybe i should start posting teh other one's soon...
 
also what curves? tis all straight sections....
 
and i thank you
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/04/08 - 15:35 GMT
Several components are curved, as far as I can see. Yes, the curves are made up of straight lines. Like the wingtip spikes.

Now all we need to do is find a role for it. And tbh, no offense to GTR, it could theoretically replace to older jet.
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/08 - 19:28 GMT
thats why i also thought of a space fighter..
 
if it is going to be a space fighter, rather than a replacement of the jet... i need some help with ideas for it
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a new idea?
2 days - 6,069v
Posted 2013/04/09 - 14:31 GMT
Sebfromnz,
 
This is a wonderful creation; the jet is sleek, futuristic, and most of all, looks fun to fly. :)
 
If a space fighter like this were to be implemented into the game, as I most definitely hope that it will, I personally believe that the second desin looks far more like a space fighter than the first. Though the first design is incredibly cool, I think that it is a little bit too similar to your hydrofoil design to be implemented as a space-fighter.
 
I know that ACE had an idea that the hydrofoil could transform into something else; a biplane, for instance (please let me know if I am misquoting you, ACE- I am not 100% sure about exactly what you said), and I think that it would be an incredibly cool thing if the first "hydrofoil" design shown here transformed into the second "space-fighter" design. I could animate that transition for you so that you could see what it looks like before sending it off to Flynn (or someone else to code).
 
These look fantastic; far better than what I could model. :)
 
Sincerely,
Apophis
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a new idea?
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/04/09 - 15:45 GMT
Hmm. I did say that, but later changed my mind. I think in general vehicles should stick to one...  medium? kingdom? area? ... like all the vehicles we already have. Having a puffin-style master-of-everything would really detract from the game, because everyone would use it, for good reason, too. What I'm saying is that, if the hydro-jet happened...
- it would float, and thus be the best vehicle for water (except possibly hovercraft)
- it would have to work on land, because the spawn its there
- it would have all the advantages of the jet (except the hovering capability)
so, in the end, it would be the complete vehicle selection in one. No-one would ever use anything but it.
 
I do have another suggestion - if it flew slower than the jet, maybe around the speed of a fast-flying buggy, but could also 'fly' underwater, it could be a submarine-jet hybrid. This would allow it to get from the spawn to the water, as was the problem with previous sub designs. Just a thought.
 
I do agree with you Apophis, it is a verry purty model.
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/09 - 21:53 GMT
 to ace i know the polly count... but i don't need to mention it
 
 
also might post the other two, to see what you guys think
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/04/10 - 13:14 GMT
Hmm? Does that mean it's nice and small, or too large to comprehend? lol
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a new idea?
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/11 - 3:27 GMT
Seb, most recent and beautiful version could, imo, lose the very front wing between the engines. Also keep in mind that placing the weight of those engines at the outside like that would drastically increase rotational inertia of the vehicle (make turning slower).
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/11 - 4:04 GMT
in other words you like the blue one?... and thats a good thing atm... as the jet turns soo fast it stalls out mid turn
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4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/04/11 - 8:10 GMT
The jet doesn't stall if you control the turn. You need a little bit of skill to keep it in - the pitch rate is far faster than the wings can cope with - but it turns quite nicely imho.
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2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/14 - 6:04 GMT
flying wing.... built the engine's in to the wing's 
 
yes... i was in the mood to make something different
 
flying wing
top
engines on underside of wing
back
another top view
must remember to upload those other picture's at some stage
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/04/14 - 10:27 GMT
Doesn't look like Achilles' at all... no, of course not.
 
http://marsxplr.com/view-7644
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/14 - 10:37 GMT
oops totally forgot he made one of those.... oh well
 
different one
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engine's
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front
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
2 days - 7,530v
Posted 2013/04/15 - 2:59 GMT
It's not like Achilles is still going to make it possible to impliment his model into the game, so what's wrong with remaking it?
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/21 - 17:23 GMT
@Seb - This one is best to my eye "flying wing.... built the engine's in to the wing's "

@_ACE_ - Most all flying wings look almost exactly alike until the details are explorer-ed. Achilles' wing is more dished from wings into cockpit area. And Seb's has a canopy where Achilles' has none.
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/15 - 4:33 GMT
not sure.... personally i like the second one.... which i started after i completed the first one...
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a new idea?
6 days - 11,359v
Posted 2013/04/17 - 17:26 GMT
T'is good, i like it better withought the bottom wing though :3
#10 looks like a spartan helmate and #14 looks like a skull :D
 
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a new idea?
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/21 - 17:30 GMT
"I'm soooo exicited.~" "fairly boring pointless post" "All I can do is laugh right now" "anything but 'epic'."

Harsh statements from _ACE_ with no suggestions for improvement. Suggestions are important if one believes a model should be improved upon.
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a new idea?
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/04/21 - 19:11 GMT
That was before he even posted a picture. Sorry. It was pointless at that time. And there was nothing to improve.
 
So yeah, ask anyone else here : he had a post up telling us he was making something that was so utterly amazing it would blow our minds. Thanks, but that's pointless. And if you have a problem with me saying that about a post about self-promotion, go ahead and remove them.
 
Now - now there is a model. Now we can offer crit.
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a new idea?
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/21 - 19:46 GMT
As I said in game, Seb's a trusted member and it can be fun to play along with the friendly drama of an "coming soon" post.
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a new idea?
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/04/21 - 19:58 GMT
I do object to referring to your own stuff as 'epic' etc, especially before we have even seen it.
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Re: what it is... is epic! new idea to replace an old one? or just a n
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/23 - 3:55 GMT
meh ill change it if that makes you happy.....
 
and you still haven't seen everything yet ace.... still stuff that i haven't posted yet
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Re: new idea to replace an old one? or just a new idea?
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/04/23 - 8:55 GMT
random plane i did some time ago..
 
told you it was random
yea i know the tail is a bit wide
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yea it has a bit of an odd shape
built in engine
i mostly don't like the tail, or the nose section in front of the cockpit
 
**edit** fixed the tail, is now a lot thinner
 
im going to carry on making things for a while... be it planes at the moment... im just having a blast as i find it fun to let loose and make things

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