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Shut up.
Submitted By Ender on 13/09/25
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And so another flame war begins.
 
I'm not naming any names here, except for one. A lot of people here are being unreasonable and you should all stop doing that. Thank you.
 
Mad, I don't know if you're trolling or what, but either way, shut up. You're really not helping Mars retain its currently extremely delicate infrastructure.
 
My advice to everyone on this is please be more respectful when you write. If you're respectful then people are more likely to listen to what you're going to say. Debating each other is important because if two people disagree, one or both of them is wrong, and if you debate you'll get closer to the correct take. So argue, but do it in a way where you take your own perspective less seriously and can change your mind, and most of all, do it rationally. That way everyone benefits. Acknowledge the fact that you could actually be wrong.
 
Kruncher, in a message to me over YouTube, and Eric, in a conversation over Skype, agreed that Aubrey can solve the dispute: he can explain if he views Ace hacking to be illegal per his rules about releasing the source code. That's one way to solve the problem. The other way is by calm, rational discussion about your disagreements. Some of you are failing to do this right now and it's turning this place in to a warzone.
 
What my opinion on this whole thing is: what Ace did is morally wrong (as per my moral views). Intruding into other peoples' games is bad (without their permission). Logging what people say is bad (without their permission). Un-passwording games and then entering them is bad and leaving them un-passworded is bad.
 
What he did, however, is technically legal (I mean like, he can't be fined or put in jail for it). I don't know if Aubrey thinks it's okay to do, and ultimately the question is down to what Aubrey thinks, but it's not illegal. AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S OKAY WHEN I SAY IT'S LEGAL.
 
Kruncher is also in the wrong because of many of his moderating decisions (not hiding Oinky's comments, the Terrium posts) and blaming them on Ace. He's paranoid, and made unreasonable moderation decisions. He'd also been perpetuating Ace and his own rivalry (but Ace has been doing that too). They have both tried apologizing for it yet failed to see the other side's apology. This is their own fault, they have not been sufficiently respectful to each other.
 
A lot of us are in agreement about this. Ace did wrong, Kruncher did wrong, spammers are annoying, Terrium isn't a bad thing even though one of its developers did wrong. There are only a few people who are vocal about their disagreements, and you guys are not being respectful. If only the majority could realize that we're actually in agreement, then we could come together and reprimand the vocal few for being disrespectful.
 
If you want me to share my full opinions on people, please ask in the comments and I will oblige. I haven't disclosed my full opinions in this post about Ace, Kruncher, Aubrey, or Mad, or anyone else.
 
Guys, seriously. Calm the f*** down.  Be reasonable. I'm open to changing my mind everything. Are you? If the answer is no, get out. If the answer is yes, please express this.
 
TL;DR: Shut up, calm down, and be respectful.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtpQdqq9FD4 <--clean version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI 
http://thenicestplaceontheinter.net/
 

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Re: My take on all of this.
3 hours - 275v
Posted 2013/09/25 - 21:24 GMT
The best post about all of this. Thank you, Ender.
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Re: My take on all of this.
4 days - 9,099v
Posted 2013/09/25 - 22:54 GMT
Yes, thank you.
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Re: My take on all of this.
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/09/25 - 23:09 GMT
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Apologies.
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Re: My take on all of this.
4 days - 9,099v
Posted 2013/09/25 - 23:16 GMT
I do not care anymore. Forget sides, i'm simply saying thank you and that i agree. Take it for what its worth, please.
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Re: My take on all of this.
3 hours - 275v
Posted 2013/09/26 - 0:25 GMT
Sides shouldn't matter.
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Re: My take on all of this.
1 day - 4,967v
Posted 2013/09/26 - 0:52 GMT
Shut up?
 
 
Umm...hmm...
 
Make me?
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Re: My take on all of this.
3 hours - 275v
Posted 2013/09/26 - 1:09 GMT
Mad, you really need to knock it off. You haven't been here for how long, and of course, you come back when drama starts. What did you come back here for? To start more?

Your certainly acting like it. Now stop, or leave.
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Re: My take on all of this.
1 day - 4,967v
Posted 2013/09/26 - 2:17 GMT
I came back because the community's gone mad again.
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Re: My take on all of this.
3 hours - 275v
Posted 2013/09/26 - 2:41 GMT
Not exactly pointing for you to shoot in.
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Re: My take on all of this.
1 day - 5,491v
Posted 2013/09/26 - 19:22 GMT
Yes, Mad, please please please, for me, just like calm down a bit. I'm pretty sure we've reached at least a temporary resolution here - please help make it permanent!
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Re: My take on all of this.
1 day - 4,967v
Posted 2013/09/27 - 2:43 GMT
I'm sure you would like that, Sprawl. A permanent resolatuon. Quite a coincidence coming back just as the hacking started.
 
 
Nothing about this is a resolution. Nothing. 
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Re: My take on all of this.
3 days - 9,368v
Posted 2013/09/27 - 3:53 GMT
Mad, why do you feel it is necessary to be the way you are being? You are making things worse.
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Re: My take on all of this.
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/09/27 - 4:12 GMT
Stop. He's a troll. Ignore him.
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Re: My take on all of this.
8 hours - 627v
Posted 2013/09/27 - 4:26 GMT
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Re: My take on all of this.
1 day - 5,491v
Posted 2013/09/27 - 6:35 GMT
I never left, old friend.
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Re: My take on all of this.
8 hours - 855v
Posted 2013/09/27 - 11:45 GMT
Wow, just wow, I'm glad I've left both CC and mars and found a much better game all this bitching is just shit.
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Re: My take on all of this.
4 days - 9,099v
Posted 2013/09/27 - 14:50 GMT
Obviously u didnt leave, otherwise you wouldnt have posted^.^
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Re: My take on all of this.
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/09/27 - 17:51 GMT
People check up on the Mars community, see how it's doing. People have friends here and even though they left, they still have an interest in how everything is going, because of how small a community this is.
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Re: My take on all of this.
4 days - 9,099v
Posted 2013/09/27 - 18:11 GMT
no offense and i don't want to argue but does this sound like they are interested? like they enjoyed coming back?
 
"Wow, just wow, I'm glad I've left both CC and mars and found a much better game all this bitching is just shit."
 
i have friends on here too and if i ever left and came back and saw that this was all they you guys were doing then i'd be disappointed. yes i too would check up on it, see how it's doing but coming back to this? c'mon, seriously. And your right, it IS  a small community BUT.....do you not see HOW MUCH goes on in it? we make everything into a big deal so then there goes members and happiness.
 
again i really don't want to argue or flame or any of that, i'm just saying that this is a perfect example.
 
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Re: My take on all of this.
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/09/28 - 0:35 GMT
It doesn't matter, they want to revisit the nostalgia and check up on how one of the communities that they frequented in their formative years is doing. There is a lot of work going into it and sometimes people don't want to put that in anymore because they're tired of it, but they still want to know what's going on, what new drama has arisen?

Were I to leave, I would check up, see how everyone's doing. The other forums that I frequented in my formative years have gone defunct (like I click on the link to the forum and it just gives me a white page) but I still check up on it every now and then, see if it's working.
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Re: My take on all of this.
4 days - 9,099v
Posted 2013/09/28 - 11:52 GMT
" what new drama has arisen?"

Thats something to look forward to on this, without a doubt.

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